Menu:


Local links:

musictrademagazine
Table of Contents:
-October 2020 Interview
-Late 1990s Interview
-Informational Brochure
-Catalog







Note to readers:  These interviews did not appear in any other publication.  The reason these interviews are appearing here is due to the fact that the Occupy Augusta Interviews is a tough act to follow; however these interviews, no doubt, are ground breaking.

October 2020

Doug:   “O.k. cool.”

Ray:  “Alright, I’m Ray Mc Cutcheon.  Ahhhmmm…  I own two businesses.  One of them is Mc Cutcheon Health Products, and the other one is a Frequency company that blocks every frequency in the atmosphere from going through your body.  I can explain both of them as we go on.

     Ah, the magnets first.  The magnets help rebuild and repair and can help with all kinds of different things.  On the body we literally have magnets for every place on your body.  Ahhhmmm… A lot of people think magnets are just arthritis or rumatory arthritis, it’s not.  It’s for all kinds of different things.  If you have a bad back, it will force muscles and tissues to relax and increase circulation.   Your Red and White blood cells are the only thing that heals your body.  If you let somebody operate on you, the only way you’re going to heal is Red and White blood cells.  So, what I tell everybody is:  ‘Why not try Red and White blood cells first, before you let them cut on you?  Then if you have to have an operation, put it on immediately afterwards, because it will force the muscles and tissues to relax.  Like I said and it will increase the circulation.  If you can increase that circulation, you’re going to heal less than half the normal time than other people.  We’ve done many times when people have broken their wrist or their arm.  Ahhh…put it…put it in a cast.  We put magnets right over the outside of…of the cast.  And I tell people like:  ‘ If you break your…your wrist or something, usually that’s a ten or twelve week break.’  I tell people: ‘Put a magnet over it, in six weeks, Ahh… have them cut the mask…cast off of it and take an X-Ray.’  And you’ll see that 99.9 percent of the people are totally healed by then.  Ahhmmm…Doctors will have…have a fit.  ‘No, no, you have to keep the cast on.’  Well, I tell them: ‘It’s my arm, you cut the cast off.’  They take an X-Ray, It’s totally healed.  It’s circulation.  When you have that cast on, you’re reducing circulation, because it increases swelling.  And because you have inflammation in there, because of the broken arm and broken body or whatever you’ve done and it ends up swelling up.  When you put the magnet on there, it forces circulation through there, so it reduces the swelling and it increases more Red and White blood cells.  Which I don’t care where on your body you’re having a problem, you increase the Red and White blood cells, the body heals.  Ahhhmmm… we’ve done people that have had Cancer.  Ahhhmmm… and I tell them put magnets, really high powered magnets over that area.  Cancer is a fungus bacteria.  It cannot survive in a high oxygenated field.  So, if you put the magnets on there, because the Red blood cell… If you remember back in the school, and I’m old enough to… If I can remember it, you should be able to.  (Chuckles.)  Ahhmmm… your Red blood cell brings in more cellular oxygen and it rebuilds and repairs muscle, tissue, nerves, bones and cartilage.  So, if you can increase that circulation, your body can start to rebuild and repair that.  So, it’s bringing in more cellular oxygen.  The White blood cell takes out calcium deposits, impurities, poisons and toxins.  Which is what Cancer and that kind of stuff is, so, it’ll chew that up and take it out of there.  Like any type of arthritis, bursitis, heel spurs, bone spurs, gout, Ahhh…plaque in the veins, T.M.J., stones, scar tissue, all that has some type of calcium.  Either it’s a calciumfication or something, but the White blood cell will slowly chew it up and take it out of there.  So, it works really good on that and I tell people all the time: ‘If you don’t want to use magnets on Cancer, then find somebody with a Hypo-barrier chamber, like they use with scuba divers with Deben’s.  They put them in there, fills the body with cellular oxygen and if you go in and a minimum, (Emphasis on the word minimum.)  And I’m talking bare minimum, (More emphasis on the words bare minimum.)  Three time a week for an hour at a time, and it’ll fill that, Ahhh…  You’ll fill your body with cellular oxygen and it will kill the Cancer cells.  So, if you don’t want to use magnets, use that.’  Ahhh…we have done so much with people that…Ahhh…Chemo and radiation, which is just destroying your body: use the Red and White blood cells, which is what Mother Nature gave us to use.  Ahhh… you know?  And let your body start to rebuild and repair itself.  Try to get that going.  So, like I said I have stuff for everywhere on the body.  It just depends on where, Ahhh… your having a problem.  Ahhh…We’ve done people with rotor cuff, Ahhh…Back…serious back problems.  My own wife had a…had one surgery done.  L5 was totally disintegrated and gone.  We didn’t know anything about magnets at the time and they ended up operating on her.  Took a chunk off her hip and put it in there, fused it in.  And, Ahhh…(pause)  Ahhh…She had to go through the surgery, the surgery pain, and…and rehabilitation and everything.  And tight then they had told us: ‘that, Ahhmmm…she had, Ahhh…the next two discs were totally gone, Ahhh…or pretty close to being gone.  Within a year, two years maximum, she would had to of have two more major back surgeries.’  It is actually now 27 years latter.  Her back is totally healed.  No more surgeries.  We used magnets on her back.  It increased her circulation.  Ah, we saw the X-Ray from the Doctor when she first, Ahhh…when he first took X-Rays on there.  WE could see that the discs were crumbling.  8 years latter, I took here into the same Doctor, to make sure that, because he put two pins in there.  I wanted to make sure the pins were working and weren’t loose, coming our, because I’ve seen people sometimes where the pins are working out on them.  And, Ah, took an X-Ray and he was flipping out.  He couldn’t believe that the two discs that were disintegrating were totally healed.  So, we literally saw the, Ahhh…difference.  Between 8 years of using the mag…she didn’t use the magnets for a total of 8 years.  She wore magnets for about 6 months night and day on her back and it totally healed her up.  We sleep on a magnetic mattress pad every…every night so that also helps it.  Ahhhmmm…and she’s never had to had any more surgeries, her back is totally healed up.  So, Ahhhmmm…magnets we’ve seen it with ourselves, we’ve used it on Ummm…our kids have used the magnets.  And I’ve been doing this for 24 years.  And I see so many people that come back and see me year after year after year.  They either have somebody else that has a problem with different places on the body.  They come back to get stuff for them, of they’ll have something else that’s going wrong and they come back to get something else for themselves.

     So, Ummm…I have repeat business constantly.  I…we do mail orders all the time.  People are always calling us and they need something else of, Errr…different product or something.  So we, Ah, we…we’re really busy… been doing this for a ling time.  And I have literally hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people, probably thousands of people that Ahhh…come and see us every year, every other year or whatever; because I’m all over the place, they know where we’re going to be, they make sure they come there to see us.  So, we’ve been very fortunate with that.  Ahhmmm…nobody duplicates what I have.  We’ve got some of the strongest products that are out there and we’re happy to have those, being able to get them and use them.  And, Ummm…we help a lot of people.  Ahhh…If anybody has a particular problem they can always call me and talk to me.  If I can help them I tell them.  If I can’t help them, I’m hones and I tell them I can’t do anything.  So, that’s basically the magnets.  The magnets have just been an incredible life saver for a lot of people.  

     Three years ago I bought another company.  That I had been, Ahhh…selling their products for nine years prior.  So, I’ve been doing this product now 12 years:  It’s a frequency band.  Ahhh…that’s what we call it.  But, we have it in rings, bracelets, necklaces, we have it in all kinds of different stuff.  It blocks every frequency in the atmosphere from going through your body.  It’s literally grounding yourself to…to the Earth.  Which is the way it’s suppost to be.  Years ago when I was a kid, and I know it was a long time ago.  But, when I was a kid, everything we ever wore on our feet usually had leather soles.  So, we were being grounded to the Earth.  Everything now, just about everything is rubber soles.  And that doesn’t let you get grounded down to the Earth.  So, you have a problem with that type of stuff.  This here instantly we, Ahhh…I do a, Ahhh…test that takes 30 seconds and in 30 seconds you can see that this works.  There’s no gimmick to it.  Ahhhmmm…I don’t have to do the test.  I can let somebody else do the same thing to you.  Ah, there is no gimmick.  It blocks every frequency.  There are literally billions and billions and billions of frequencies in our atmosphere now that are going through your body.  People go: ‘Oh, it can’t go through your body.’  Really?  If you’re in the middle of you House, can you use your cell phone?  Well, yeah.  How do you think that frequencies to… getting through you?  It’s going through your siding.  The siding on the outside of your building.  It’s going through the plywood on your wall, through the 2 x 4s.  Through the insulation.  Through the sheetrock. Going into the House and if you’re in a room in the middle of the House, it’s going through more sheetrock, more 2 x 4s and more sheetrock to get to you.  That’s frequencies…Mmmm…O.K.?  If it’s going through all that hard stuff, and you don’t think it’s going through your body?  Of course it is, and it’s very damaging on the body.  It’s taking our balance, our strength, our energy and our flexibility away.  

        I talk to people all the time they…they have kids that have, Ahhh…either A.D.H.D. or anxiety.  And if you talk to people, find out how many kids that have these problems.  And it’s going to be…It’s going to  be probably 4 out of 10 people will tell you that their kid has anxiety or A.D.H.D., they’re wound up, they can’t control them.  Well what it is, is all these frequencies going through them and it blocks what we normally are suppost to be, and it drives it right into us.  Kids now a day… most of them are playing video games.  That’s a frequency.  And they are close to the T.V., That’s a frequency.  O.K.?  And on top of that 90 percent of all the kids now a days have cell phones.  They sleep with them next to their head or next to their body.  Those frequencies are going into them, continuously.  And it isn’t just the cell phone.  Think about it.  Your cell phone is a frequency.  They all have Bluetooth, Hotspot and Wi-Fi.  That’s four frequencies.  Look on your phone and count how many Apps’ you have on your phone.  Every App is a separate frequency; otherwise it couldn’t come through your phone.  Those frequencies are live.  Because you touch that App it’s instantly on.  Those are going in your body every day.  Anybody within 30 to 35 feet of a cell phone, it’s going into them, theirs is going into you.  You can’t get way from it.  The United States has over 2,600 satellites out there.  Those are going all through your body.  Worldwide there are over 22,000 satellites in our Atmosphere now.  I have a cousin that works at N.A.S.A., he looked it up and told me.  Ahhh… there’s no place on top of the Earth you can physically go now and there’s no place you can go without frequencies going in your body.  Just from those.  That’s not counting all the cell phones.  All the cell phone towers reach over 30-35 miles in all directions.  All the power lines.  Those are frequencies.  All the T.V., and radio.  Those are frequencies.  You look at the airplanes in the sky.  How do you think they talk back to the airport?  Frequencies.  And they all have to be on a separate channel, or they wouldn’t be able to do that.  There are billions and billions and billions of frequencies.  I have Direct T.V..  You go on Direct T.V..  I don’t have all the stations but you could go to Direct T.V., and you could look at, from channel one to…yea…the top channel they have, some of that is music, but it’s still frequencies.  It’s nine thousand, five hundred and seventy one stations that they have.  Those…all of those are frequencies going in out there.  That’s just Direct.  That’s not Dish.  (Note to readers:  next word sounds like “Files,” or “Fivo’s” or something similar.)  That’s not Spectrum.  And everybody now has those little fire sticks  that they hang… they hook into their T.V., and hang into a window, and they get another hundred channels, free channels out there.  Those are frequencies.  Everything in your house is a frequency.  People do not realize, a refrigerator is putting out a frequency.  They don’t think of it.  It’s electric.  Everything in your house that is plugged into that grid is a frequency and they are all different of they couldn’t run.  Mmmm…O.K.?  I mean you just stop and look around you.  People say:  ‘Well, I’m safe in my car.’  That’s metal and glass.  No way.  It’s still going through that.  You can use your cell Phone anywhere going down the road, as long as there is a tower around it’ll hook onto.  PLUS!  Every single car now has a computer!  That’s a frequency!  Your alternator is putting out a frequency.  Look at all the…all…all of the wires under your ‘dash,’ of your car, (pause) frequencies.  Now most all cars have electric seat. ..Heaters in the seat.  I mean, the car is full of frequencies.  

     We have one that goes on the car.  It will block every one of those fre…It doesn’t block it.  What it does, it changes all those frequencies into our frequency.  Every human is suppost to be at a…We’re all together…we’re all suppost to be at.  O.K.?  That our bodies will function on.  Its grounding us back to the Earth.  Humans and animals are at the same frequency.  So, as long as you have one of these within an inch of your body, it blocks every frequency in the atmosphere from going through your body.  People with Fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, Lupus and Lyme disease.  The Frequencies devastate those people.  I have Fibromyalgia.  I know what it’s like.  The pain is excruciating.  I wear on both ankles and both wrists and around my neck.  It blocks every frequency out these, grounds me back to the Earth and I’m pain free.  I can go do what I want to do.  In, ah, 1997, I was in a wheelchair.  My feet and legs were so bad from the Fibromyalgia.  It was excruciatingly painful and it just took me out.  I had to quit my businesses and everything.  I just…I hurt.  And when I found out about this…you have to…for those four different problems, you have to have them on your ankles, on your wrists and are…those will do it, but around the neck is even better.  And you can be pain free and you can go do what you want.  I have some people…I have a lady that, Ahhh…does a lot of shows like I do.  And her Fibromyalgia was so bad, that it took her 45 minutes every day to sit up in bed.  That’s not getting up, that’s just sitting up, because she was in so much pain.  She used my magnets for quite a few years.  I don’t know, probably (pause) 8,9 years, before I got involved in the frequency stuff.  And the magnets would get her up, she could work.  She’s like a work-a-holic.  She works all the time.  Ahhhmmm….And she would get our there and she’d work.  She would still be in some pain.  When I started with the frequency stuff, she’d come over and ask me about it.  She was like: ‘What’s this stuff?’  And I told her what it did.  And she goes: ‘Will it help me?’ And I said: ‘Well, with Fibromyalgia, you’d need to have on…on both ankles and both wrists and around the neck.’  She said: ‘O.K., do it.’  And I said: ‘Well, they’re kinda expensive.’  

       ‘I don’t care; you never lied to me about the magnets.  I don’t believe you’ll lying to me about this.’  So, we put ém on her.  And she stood there at my tent.  I was at thee, Ahhh….Walton Fair in New York.  And she stood there at..at…in my tent, we were talking, and it was about ten minutes after she had the stuff.  All of a sudden she looked at me and she goes, ‘Oh my God!’  And I’m thinking:  ‘oh, don’t tell me I made her worst.’  Because I didn’t know.  You know?  At that time I was really new at it.  And I said: ‘What?’  And she goes: ‘The pain in my feet are (Emphasis here) GONE!’  And I said: ‘Really?’ She goes: ‘Yeah.’ She goes: ‘I cannot believe this.’  She goes: ‘Oh my God, this is unreal.’ Ahhh…everything that she had on was a little over five hundred dollars.  It was what it was costing her.  She came…that’s…that was on a Tuesday.  She came back on a Thursday, and, Ummm…Ahhh…She brought her sister over and said: ‘Put four of those on my sister.’  And I said: ‘Do you remember how much they cost?’  Because at that time it would be around four hundred bucks.  She goes ‘I know put ém on her.’  
‘O.K.’ Put ‘em on her sister.  Ahhh…her sister couldn’t believe the difference.  I used to see this woman only twice a year.  Now, I see her more.  But, the following week, on a Tuesday, she showed up, Ahhh…with her Mother and she said: ‘Put four of those on my Mother.’  She goes:’ I know the cost, just do it.’  On Thursday she came back and had me put on her other sister, put four of ‘em on her other sister.  It was amazing.  Ahhh…She had sold more stuff for me than anybody else.  Everybody knew her, she had a huge French Fry Booth, and stuff, and she was busy continuously.  And people couldn’t believe to watch her go back to work and do everything that she was doing.  She found out by putting more on, it actually made her better and stronger and a lot less pain.  So, to this day, çuz we laugh at her, we call her ‘Stacking Linda.’  She had me fit ém, so they will stack onto of each other.  She wears seven on both wrists, five on both ankles and two on her neck.  And to watch her go, you’d never know she had an ache or a pain or anything previous.  She is just on the fly all the time.  Never, ever stops.  She’s amazing.  So, Ahhh…does everybody need to do that?  No.  But, she was in so much pain and stuff.  One was helping her, two was making her better, three she was doing even more and so, she just started putting them on.  And Ahhh…(chuckles.)  I took ém off her one day and weighed them.  It was eight pounds that she wears.  And I told her: ‘Don’t ever fall in the water; you’ll sink like a rock.’  And she just laughed, but she won’t go without them.  You’d never see her without them.  So, Ahhh…It was amazing, to watch that.  I’ve had a lot of people…’M.S.’…’M.S.’ is one of the worst things…Ahhhh…for people with frequencies.  The…I did not realize how (Short pause) the frequencies literally devastate people with ‘M.S.’.  If they end up putting these on, Ahhh…they literally…well, let me start at the beginning.

      I’ve had people that come to me in a wheelchair.  (Pause.)  I ask them: ‘Can you get up?  Can you walk?’  They’ll go: ‘I can get out of the wheelchair and I can sit like on the bench or on a chair.  I can get out of the wheelchair and get into the vehicle.  But, don’t ask me to walk anywhere.  I can’t walk.’

     ‘O.k.’  I have some really wide ones.  They’re about an inch wide.  And I’ll take it and put one on them.  And I’ll say: ‘If you will trust me, I will go with you.’  I usually have my hand, like in the middle of their back, and…and down their arm.  And I go: ‘We’ll just try to walk with these on.  I won’t let you fall.  I’ll catch you.  But to see if you can walk.’  Reluctantly, they’re kinda looking at me and going: ‘Ahhmmm…O.k.’  They’ll get up out of…out of the…the wheelchair, and we will walk out…we walk about (pause) 20, 25 feet out, make a little circle and come back.  And they look at me going: ‘You got to be kidding me.  I cannot walk like that.’  I’d go: ‘Hold on a minute.’  I’ll put a second one, wide like that, on their other wrist, I’ve been doing this for 12 years.  And I always say: ‘O.k., I’ll go with you again, to make sure you don’t fall.’  In 12 years not (emphasis on one and person) one person  has looked at me and said: ‘O.k.’.  Every single one of ‘em has said: ‘Let me go by myself.’  And it’s amazing.  And they              will walk out.  They’ll walk further than they did with me.  Ahhhmmm…In one of the locations I’m at, there’s same steps there.  They will literally go up the steps and back down and come back and the tears are running out of their eyes, they cannot believe they can walk again.  So, usually ‘M.S.’ people, they need at least on both wrists.  And some of them that are really bad, we’ll put a necklace on them and they just cannot believe what they can do.  It’s almost like putting them back ten years prior to where they are at the time.  It is amazing.  I have people standing there crying.  They’ll…the next time I see them, sometimes they’ll be with…they’ll have a cane with them.
     ‘Well, I took the cane just in case I needed it.’  And the next time I see them, they’re not even using the cane.  So, it’s the most amazing thing I’ve ever seen.  It just…It blows my mind.  Ever time I see it, it’s like unreal.  I can’t believe what I’m seeing.  Ahhmmm… we’ve helped so many people to be able to do stuff that they couldn’t do before.  Ahhh… blocking all those frequencies.  And that’s what the problem is with these kids A.D.D., ah, A.D.H.D. especially or anxiety.  These frequencies are devastating their body, and it’s casing these problems.  You put one (short pause) bracelet or a rubber band, I’ve got them in all kinds of different stuff.  You put it on that child and you will watch them change totally.  You can almost see them sometimes change.  And everyone of them that puts it on and wears it, they…if…if…if they are in school, everyone of them…the people have come back, the parents or something, have come back and told us they’ve gone a grade to a grade and a half up, in school, because it gives more clear brain focus.  That’s ah, X frequency. So, the X frequency helps with A.D.D., A.D.H.D., Autism, anxiety and it gives more clear brain focus.  The people cannot believe the difference.  I have another frequency that helps with, Ahhmmm… it helps rebuild and repair the D.N.A. your body.  Your D.N.A. is what keeps you alive.  But, we…we found out, and I did not know that in the beginning, but we found out that same frequency can stop Bipolar and Depression.  I have people with severe Bipolar and Depression…Suicidal depression.  WE put a necklace on them, it changes their life.  It was amazing to watch.  I’ve literally watched one lady in front of me, (pause) totally change.  She had her head (emphasis on buried) buried in her arms.  Wouldn’t even look at me.  I never saw her face.  (Heavy emphasis on the next sentence) Wouldn’t talk to me.  And her husband made her come to me.  I asked her questions and she would just cry.  (short pause)  And I’m thinking: ‘What am I going to do?’  So, I ask her: can I put a necklace on her.  She just kinda shrugged a little bit and her husband said: ‘Go ahead.’  She would not put her hands down.  I had to put the necklace up around the back of her neck, reach up underneath of her arms and hook the necklace.  And at that particular time, I don’t normally do it, but I happen to see my watch, because, my hands were there in front of me.  Within every four to six minutes, her arms were dropping, (pause) and they kept dropping and dropping.  Then they…they…she had ém, like she’s holding onto her arms down in front of her.  And then she was holding onto her hands down in front of her…O.K.?  Her arms were totally relaxed, looking down.  And she was literally talking to me, like I’m talking right now, and I looked at my watch and it was 30 minutes.  In 30 minutes she was totally different.  Her husband was flipping out.  Could not believe the difference in her.  They came back to me in 2  ½  weeks latter, Ahhhmmm…and what they came back for was, they have a friend of theirs that it…is a Dentist and he had two sons.  One was severe Bipolar and the other one, Ahhh…was severe Depression.  They bought the necklaces and took ém back to them, Ahhmm…and put ém on them because it changed her life so much.  She was trying to kill herself all the time.  Her husband couldn’t leave her and it totally changed her.  He gave me a bear hug when they came back and said: ‘You have no idea what you’ve done.  You’ve…You’ve saved our marriage.  You’ve saved my wife’s life.  You’ve saved the embarrassment with our children, it’s…it’s totally amazing.’  And she come up and gave us hugs and couldn’t believe that the way she was.  And she was, ah, had no suicidal thoughts at all, and she was doing better.  When she came to me, she was skinny as a rail, and I noticed that but that didn’t mean anything to me.  When she came back, they told us that she had gained 35 pounds.  She had quit eating.  Her husband couldn’t make her eat.  But, Ahhh… she’d quit eating.  She was going to kill herself that way.  And she was back up and going.  It was amazing to see it.

      We’ve seen some really amazing things with our products.  Ahhhmmm…that’s what keeps me going.  Because I’ll have somebody come in that gives me a hard time.  They’ll come in and tell me I don’t have a clue what I’m doing.  I’m stupid.  I don’t understand anything, and they’ll ramble on and on and on.  And I look at my wife and go:  ‘Why do I keep doing this?’  And the next person who walks up, comes up and hugs us and thanks us for helping them.  So, (short pause) you know at that point I forget about the jerks that try to give me a hard time, because they can’t physically understand why this could possibly help them.  You know, because (emphasis on the next two words) a Doctor, did not tell them to do it.  Do, ahhh…it was unreal.  I’ve…and I’ve seen that.  My own Mother, when My Mother was alive, she had really bad ankles.  Her ankles were killing her all of the time.  I gave her ankles wraps to put on.  Told her: ‘Keep them on, it will help you.’  I’m on the road all the time.  The next time I come back home, she’s talking about her ankles are killing her.  And I said: ‘Where are your ankle wraps?’  She goes: ‘Oh, I didn’t think that those would work, I gave them away.’  (Emphasis on next three words)  Two years latter, I was doing a show at the Civic Center and the announcer openly endorsed… I was in the front row up there, I happen to look up as people come through, my Mother was the first one coming through the door.  She spotted me, come right down, walked right up and said: ‘Where are those ankle one’s that you had?’  And I said: ‘They’re right here on the table.’  She goes: ‘I need those.’  I said: ‘You’re finally going to listen to me’ She goes: ‘No, my Doctor told me today to try using magnets.’  Now she wanted to use them.  I was really ticked off.  Ahhmmm… I gave her the first set, I made her pay for the second set.  I gave her a discount, but I made her pay for them.  Because my Mother is tighter than bark on a tree and until the day she died she had those ankle wraps on.  And it had taken all the pain out of her ankles.  So, she just kept on wearing them.  But, she wouldn’t listen to me, I’m just her son; What do I know?  But, when the Doctor finally said: ‘Try using magnets.’ Then she went to it.  So, I’ve seen this a hundred times.  People tell me: ‘Ah, no, no, no, no, no.’ Until a Doctor or somebody mentions: ‘Maybe you ought to try using magnets.’  Then they come to me.  Most of my relations.  Most of my, Ahhh…. My wife’s family and… and my family, they don’t want…they don’t listen to me.  They…because, I’m just, either their nephew, cousin or something.  They don’t listen to me, because, I don’t…you know, I don’t know what I’m talking about, but I’ll listen to a total stranger.  I have more strangers that I’ve never met before in my life that will listen to everything I have to say, and do what I recommend, and if heals them up.  But, people that know me all the time and know me for years, I’m just Ray.  ‘What the heck does he know?’  You know, so, it’s kinda like, it’s aggravating as anything trying top help people.  Ahhmmm…now, a lot of those friends are going: ‘You’ve been doing this a long time.’\

‘Yeah.’

‘You have a reason why?’

You know, they’ll look at me and go: ‘ Well, maybe it must work.  Maybe I ought to try something.’

‘Really?!  I’ve been telling you years.’

You know, but…you…just…you can’t make ‘em…you know, you just…They’re my brother-in-law, or their my sister-in-law, or their a relative or something.  You know, I am a lot better off with telling strangers who’d listen to me than relatives do, because they just don’t think about it.  ‘Yeah, yeah, yeah, just…just ‘Ray.’  He don’t know anything.’  So, you know, you fight…you fight to try to keep going.  Ahhmmm…basically that’s why I don’t do anything in Maine.  I’m well known in Maine for when I helped saved the ‘A.P.D.’s,’ from being kicked out of the state.  I was in Congress and I fought Congress and I got it, you know, to fo that.  I was in the Jaycees.  I…everybody up here knew me.  Nobody wants to listen to me, because, I was just a cabinet maker back then.  I gave up that profession, of a… building houses and doing all the carpentry to do this, because, six years of Doctors put me in a wheelchair.  My feet and legs were so bad.  ‘Oh, no.  You don’t have any pain, it’s all in your head.’  And give you anti-depressants.  And I non-politely told them where they could stick their anti-depressants.  I’m in pain!  And the last Doctor that said: ‘No, you’re not in pain.  You’re just depressed.’  I said: ‘You tell me I’m not in paid one more time…I’m going to knock you on the other side of your desk.’  And wife sat back there going: ‘He’s gonna go to jail.’  (Chuckles.)  Because I was…I was upset.  Ahhh…six years of Doctors did (Heavy emphasis on next word) Nothing! All of them wanted to give me pills and I refused to take the pills.  I’m not going to get hooked on drugs.  And a guy at a flea market in Fort Myers Florida, in Flea Masters Flea Market, in 40 minutes had me up and walking.  And that was a guy at a Flea Market.  And I went through all of these Doctors that didn’t do a thing for me.  So, everything I’m telling you is the truth.  I prove it to people all of the time.  If you’re anywhere around where I am…with the magnets I do 20 minute free treatments.  Costs you nothing.  Show me one thing a Doctor will do for you, for free.  You can’t (Next word extremely emphasized.)  Talk to him for free.  Now-a-days it’s $175 (To make an exclamation like an ascending musical scale in key,) just to go in and see him!  (Note: there are seven notes in an octative and each one of Rays’ seven words fit the whole step / half step pattern of a major scale.)  And he hasn’t even done anything for you.”  (This time his tone for the last seven words is a descending perfect octative scale in key.)

Doug: “Wow!”

Ray: “And I do free treatments to prove my stuff works.  I can prove the frequency stuff works in 30 seconds.  Show me anybody that can prove stuff that works for you in 30 seconds.  So, we stand behind our products.  The frequency stuff, I guarantee it for life.  Unless, you loose it, or break it or destroy it somehow.  I guarantee the frequency will never ever leave.  The magnets, as long as you do what I tell you to do, or what I recommend that you do, if you do it, you’re not going to believe the results that’s going to be happening.  We can help with so much stuff.  All they got to do is call me.”

Doug:  “And that number is?”

Ray: “(207) 485-4414.”

Doug:  “And the mailing address?”

Ray:  “Normally, most of my stuff is going to Arizona.  Because, we’re out there more than anywhere, and that’s P.O. Box 27 in Oatman Arizona 86433.  And if you call me, I’d rather talk to you.  I have a website, but, and I’ll get into that in a little bit.  What happens is, people that sell magnets, sell jewelry.  Mmmm…O.K.?  And they’ll tell you: ‘Oh, you put a bracelet on, it’s going to do your entire body.’  That’s a lie, it will not, I tell people all the time.  I’ve had people come up and said: ‘Well, I need a bracelet, because, my back is bad.’  

‘It’s not going to help your back.’

‘Well, you just lost a sale.’

‘I have magnets for your back.’

‘No, I wanted a bracelet.’

‘I’ll sell you a bracelet, but I’m going to tell you right up front, it’s not going to do your back.’

‘Well, then I’m not going to buy it.’

‘O.K..’

I’d rather have people walk away, than buy something…because I’ve spent years fighting not to have, ah, website, because, I know what’s gonna happen.  Some person is going to look at my website, pick a bracelet, buy a bracelet and if they call me, I usually ask: ‘What is the problem?’ And try to steer them to the right product.  But, if they just order, I know that one of these days I’m to meet somebody that said:  ‘Yeah, I bought your stuff, it didn’t work, it’s junk.’  And come to find out they bought a bracelet, because, their back or feet are bad.  It ain’t gonna work.  You have to put the magnet…It’s not always where the pain is, It’s where it originated from.  

     People are famous for telling you they have carpartunnel.  I ask people all the time: ‘Show me where the pain is in the hand.’  90 percent of the time, they go:  ‘Oh, my whole hand goes to sleep, goes up my arm.’  (Pause.)  ‘And you think that’s Carpa…

‘Oh, yeah, the Doctor told me, it’s Carpal tunnel.’

‘Well, he lied to you.  It’s not carpal tunnel.  Does your other hand ever bother you?’

‘Oh, yeah, on occasion, but not as much as this hand does.’

‘That’s coming out of you neck.  The back of your neck.’

And then I find out 20, 30 years ago they were in a car accident and snapped their neck.  It’s…It’s the arthritis or something in the back of your neck, that’s pinching that nerve that runs down through the hands.  Has nothing to do with the hands. It’s the nerve in the neck.  So, you put magnets on the neck and it heals them.  Carpal tunnel is the middle finger and the ring finger, those go numb, nothing else.  If those two go numb, yes it can be carpal tunnel.  But, people come to me with their thumb, their index finger, their middle finger are numb, it’s carpal tunnel.  No, it’s not.  Or, their little finger, the ring finger, the middle finger is numb; it’s carpal tunnel.  No, it’s not.  If you look up in the…in, ah…well, you don’t have encyclopedias anymore, but you can look online.  The nerve on your thumb runs down the side of your han…your arm.  The nerve on your little finger runs down the other side.  And the index finger runs down over the top of your arm going up into your neck.  The ring finger and the middle finger go down through the palm of your hand and down through the tunnel area.  That’s why it’s called (emphasis here.)  Carpal tunnel.  (Pause.)  That tunnel area from exertion or, Ahhmmm…Waitresses holding their hand, holding dishes and stuff.  Ahhh…repetitive work, those two nerves can get locked into that tunnel and then they end up cutting in there trying to free it up.  Sometimes they hit the nerve and make it worst.  All you had to do is put magnets on there, it will force that muscle and tissue to relax.  It will let go of that nerve and your hand is free again.  You don’t have to get operated on.  But, you have to go by where the pain originated.

     I have people that, they have pain running through the groin area, down through the sides of the leg, down the back of the leg, down the buttocks through and they come in and go: ‘Oh, yeah my hip is killing me.’  It has nothing to do with your hip.  Your hip is in the front.  Mmmm…O.k.?  Now, that’s kinda front, but in the front of your, where you think your hip is.  It’s in the front, but everyone points to their butt, on my hip.  That’s not your hip, that’s your butt.  That’s coming out of the sciatica area.  You treat the sciatica area, everything else will fall out on its own and…and go back to the way it’s suppost to be.  Because on your center of your back, you’ve hurt it and you have arthritis or you’ve pinched a nerve or something in there which is running down your leg.  You have to go where the problem originated.  That’s why I ask all kinds of questions: ‘What did you do?  What do you do for work?  What kind…’  you know…’Have you ever been in an accident?  Have you…’  I ask hundreds of questions trying to find out and pin point (special emphasis here:)  Where that problem is.  That’s why, where…when I’m set up, I do 20 minute free treatments.  Again, show me anything your Doctor is going to go and do for free.  I do 20 minute free treatments trying to prove to you, I’m not going to heal it in 20 minutes; but when you get up out of the chair, you can feel the difference to know it was not a (says next word with contempt,) gimmick.  And so, we try to do that to help people and prove to people where the problem originated from.  (Loud emphasis here:)  Fix that area!  (Back to normal tone.)  Stop putting band-aids on it by taking…by taking all kinds of (euphuism on next word:) pills and stuff like that.  Or putting when I was growing up, if you hurt your wrist,  ( Increases volume to sound like someone else for the next sentence:)  ‘Go put an Ace bandage on it.’  (Back to normal voice.)  You’re putting an Ace bandage, you’re cutting off circulation, you make it worst.  When you put my magnets on, you did not put ém on tight.  You put them on, so they’re just there, not tight at all.  I don’t care if they roll around on your wrist.  You know, it you’re putting, ah...ahhh…three inch black wrap that I have.  I don’t care if you…you can take it and grab a hold of it and move it around, like you could with your watch or something.  It’s not to be put on tight.  You never put anything on tight.  You put it on tight, you’re cutting off circulation.  You’re defeating the purpose of what you’re doing; how you’re trying to fix it?  You know, that’s why they sell you these braces and all kinds of stuff; and all that copper crap that they tell ya.  

     I’ve looked at…(pause) probably shouldn’t be saying this, I’ve looked at (note to readers: next word was inaudible, due to fast pace of speech.)  --------    and Copper fit and I’ve stretched them right out and looked up through the sun.  I don’t see a piece of copper in there.  You know, and you show me any copper that you can stretch and it goes back together.  They say: ‘It’s infused.’ Well if you stretched it, shouldn’t it break?  And it’s like, all it is…is a brace and it’s a (Note to readers: next word is inaudible.  However it sounds like ‘Main.’) You know the old time… the old time, ahh…farmers:  (Ray goes into a rough old timers voice here.)  ‘Yeah, you got to put copper on here, you know you …to help ya rumatytus.’ (Back to normal voice.)  Yea, well Copper if you have any Copper deficiency then it will.  Accept through your pores, and it’s like putting wd-40 on a piece of metal that your having a hard time to move.  It’s a lubricant; O.K.? so, you can start to move it a little bit easier.  Copper is going in there and it’s kinda like…ah, it’s not a real lubricant, but it’s kinda like that.  O.K.?   So, it can move a little bit free-er.  It ain’t gonna heal anything.  Put magnets on it and try that…Help rebuild repair the damage in there.   Mmmm…O.K.?  Ahhhmmm…but, it just depends on what you want to do, and how you want to fix something. So…”

Doug: “I should probably flip the tape over before it stops.”

Ray: “I have people that will come in, and they go: ‘There is no way that this is going to work.  It cannot wor…’  I’ll give you a good example:  (4 second pause) about (short pause) 3 years ago, there was a Doctor, I was at one of the Fairs…I believe it was one of the Fairs in New York.  I used to do really big Fairs in New York, not New York City.  Out of…you know the outer part of New York.  And Im talking to people about how this can help their backs or help this or help that, and he spoke up and said: ‘magnets ain’t going to do a thing for you, it’s ridiculous.  Magnets can’t…can’t help you.  You know…you know, you don’t have any metal in your body.’

‘Oh, really?  You have iron in your blood.’

‘Well, yeah.’

I said: ‘So, that’s what it helps get the circulation of the blood moving better and increasing circulation.  Not shooting it through your veins.  But, a lot of people do not realize that blood going through your veins goes in a counter clockwise rotation, as it’s going through your veins.  Mmmm…O.K.?  Now when you put a magnet on that area, reacting with the iron in your blood, in that area it will start to increase the spiral, two to three times more than what it normally does.  You increase the spiral, that’s more Red and White blood cells coming through that area, that is what helps them rebuild and repair your body.  It’s the blood cells, Mmmm…O.K.?’  So, I had this Doctor tell me that it…there’s no way possible and he’s arguing.  And by the time, Ahhh…he got done, he was pretty mouthy and loud.  We probably had 20-30 people standing there listening to him and I’m standing there going toe to toe with him.  And Ahhh…he’s going: ‘There’s no evidence.  There’s no proof.’  Yes there is.  Doctor Philpot, helped lead thee F.D.A. study.  Ahhh…there’s all kinds of information.  You can look up all these Doctors and I…I give out a flyer and it has all these Doctors, all the information.  You can look them all up.  You can see for yourself.

‘Naw, nope, nope, not…that’s all baloney, it can’t possibly help.’  

-And he didn’t use the word ‘baloney,’ but anyways, Ahhh…I looked at him and I said: ‘You know what?  It’s too bad you didn’t have any pain that I could show you.’

‘Pain?!’  He goes: ‘My back…’

He was an orthopedic surgeon.  He was operating on people’s back every day.  He goes: ‘My back is killing me.’  I sez: ‘sit down and let me show you.’

‘Naw!  This ain’t going to work…there…it’s a waste of my time.’

And I stood there and looked at him right in the face,  I said: ‘You have all these people standing here listening to you.  Why don’t you put your money where your mouth is and sit down and try it?’  And a lot of the people go: ‘Yeah, try it.  Lets see what happens.’  And he was kinda like shammed and doing it.  And he was like: ‘Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, I’ll sit down.  It ain’t going to do nothing.’  So, he sat down the chair and I put a magnet on his back, and he sat there.  The whole time he’s there, he’s telling me how there’s no scientific evidence, this is going to prove anything and he went on and on for twenty minutes, and I just let him ramble on.  So, nobody left, everybody stood there waiting.  So, his time was up, and I had got him up out of the chair.  And when he stood up, I said: ‘I want you to pay attention when you stand up.  Is it any better?  The same?  You know, what’s happening when you stand up?  You know, when you normally stand up?’  He goes: ‘Yeah, when I stand up,’  He goes: ‘I have to get up slow.’  He says: ‘I’m hurting.’  He goes: ‘It…It really , you know, hurting on my back.’  I said: ‘O.K., I want you to pay attention when you get out of the chair.  Is it better, worst, or the same?’  He said: ‘O.K..’  So, he gets up out of the chair and he looks at me and he turns around and looks at the chair and I’m standing next to him and he goes: ‘This isn’t suppost to work.’”

Doug:  (Laughs)

Ray:  “I went: ‘What?’  He goes: ‘This isn’t suppost to work.’  I said: ‘Why don’t you speak up?  You were pretty mouthy 20 minutes ago.’  I said: ‘All these people are standing here waiting for you, to see what you doing, they can’t hear you.’  So, kinda shamelessly, he kinda looks at them, he goes: ‘Well, this isn’t suppost to work.’  I said: ‘But?’  He goes: ‘I cannot believe my back.’  He goes: ‘All the pain is not gone.’  

‘Nope, and I didn’t say it would be, but you should be able to feel the difference.’

He goes: ‘Yeah I can.’  He goes: ‘I can’t believe this.  Now, how again is this suppost to work?’  And I explained it again.  He goes: ‘oh my God, I cannot believe this.’  He goes: ‘I’ll take one.’  He bought one.  I came really close to not selling it to him, just because he irritated the hell out of me.  So, I ended up selling it to him, and ah, the other people that were standing there, I sold a lot of stuff that day.  Because they all were listening to this Doctor and then when this Doctor finally said: ‘Yeah, ah, It’s definitely working.’      `They couldn’t believe the…the thing.  And that same day another Doctor cam in, I went through the same exact thing, and it was a woman Doctor, and at the end of it she got…and bought one.  And I said: ‘You know, you could tell your patients about this.’  And she said:  ‘Well, I’ll be out of business.’ And that was their comment: ‘I’ll be out of business.’  I said: ‘So, you’d rather cut and hack up people instead?’  

‘Well, that…that, you know, that’s what I trained for.’

And that…that was them.  So, Ahhh…you know, I get a lot of jerks that come in, trying to tell me, you know: ‘There’s no…no way…nothing.’ They won’t take my flyer.  I go: ‘Take the flyer look up all these Doctors.’  

‘Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, you can’t believe them.’  

‘Oh, but you can believe everybody else?’

You know some people, you just…you can’t help.  And I’ve had people tell me, that it’s: ‘There’s no way it could possibly work.’  And I’ve had people stand there that have bought stuff form me before and they start arguing with the person.  I just stand back and let ém go.  And, ah, they just…they hammer right on these people: ‘You have no idea what you’re talking about.  I’ve used these products a long time.  I’m back here today to get some more stuff.’  You know, it’s…so, it’s…it’s a never ending battle.”

Doug:  “Do you have anything for the Liver?  You know if the Liver has a hard time?”

Ray:  “Yeah!  Yup.  I…we…and we’ve done Liver.  Ahhh…we’ve done Kidneys.”

Doug:  “What do you have for that?”

Ray: “It’s, ah…ah, ‘Black wrap.’  It’s about four inches wide.”

Doug: “O.K..”

Ray:  “It…It’s all Neo-Dimium magnets.  It’s the strongest magnets man makes.  And you wrap that right around, not tight.  Tight enough to stay in place, and just let it work.  We’ve use that same one for people that are Diabetics.  If they’re type one and the Doctors’ already killed the Pancreases by putting a pump in there, there’s nothing I can do.  If it’s before they have anything put in there, I need to have a few Type One, that the…If it’s Type One, but it’s still alive a little bit of it is still working…It takes longer to rebuild and repair it, but it will.  I’ve had so many people that are no longer Diabetics.  Totally Diabetic Free.  And ah, I had an 84 year old Lady taking 5 shots a day, still type two.  Taking 5 shots a day and in 6 months she called me up, she was totally Diabetic free.  Her Doctor took her off, all her medications, she’s no longer diabetic.”

Doug:  “Whew!”

Ray: “And ah, she was one of the first ones that we had ever done that with.  And ah, after that, you know, I started telling…Once Ì see something working for somebody, it’s gotta work for somebody else.  So, I tell people about it.  Ahhhmmm… but I have one person that I haven’t seen them, Ahhmmm…for about…Mmmeeuummm…maybe almost a year and a half.  Ah, I haven’t seen them.  But, I told them about it, and they were going to put the…thee…they got a belt. They were putting the belt around the Liver.  Ahhhmmm…that’ll increase the circulation.  Any organ in your body, is suppost to be able to rebuild and repair itself.  Ahhmmm…I did it with, Ahhmmm…people less than a mile and a half from where you and I are sitting right here.  That had a , Ahhmmm…Kidney Disease, it’s hereditary in their family.  One of the boys have already had, ah, transplant, O.K., for his.  Thee oldest Daughter had the same problem.  She ended up getting my belt, and I told her about it.  She put the belt on, and her…her kidneys are fine.  They totally rejuvenated, rebuilt and repaired themselves.  It’s just circulation; It’s Red and White Blood cells.  I try to tell people and Ahhmmm…She…she’s fine.  She didn’t have to go through the dialysis.  She didn’t have to go through any of that.  And, ah, she works down here at Wal-Mart every day.  Ahhhmmm…and one of her other Brothers, ah, I don’t know if he’s doing it, but ;he has the same problem and she said: ‘He doesn’t even need to buy a belt, I already have one.’  She offered to give it to him.  I haven’t seen him, to see if he’s done it yet.  But, yeah, I mean, any organ in your body, Ahhhmmm…is suppost to be O.K..  
     
      I had, ah, guy (Medium pause.)  I never met the old man, I met the son.  The son had bought stuff for…from me…for his father.  O.K.? And he bought what we call a ‘Brick.’  It’s a one inch by four inches by six inch magnet.  It’s a really powerful magnet.  And he had it at home, and he had some of my other products too.  And he was old, and retired, and he stayed home all day at his sons’ house, and his son worked every day.  Well, he ended up having (Emphasis on next two words:) major problems, he…he knew he was going to be having…he knew…he could feel his heart.  He knew he was having a heart attack.  (Heavy emphasis on next two words:) the phone, he was out in the kitchen, the phone is…he had a chair in the living room that had the remote for the T.V., the phone, everything right there for when he’s sitting there.  If he had to use the phone he could.  He tried getting back to the chair, to grab the phone to call his son.  He didn’t make it.  He collapsed in front of the chair.  He couldn’t get up.  He reached up on there and, the Brick was on his chair.  He grabbed that, -we call it a ‘Brick,’ it’s a magnet, and he brought it down and layed it on his heart.  He layed therefore over two hours before his son come home from work.  He didn’t know there was a problem.  He come in and found has Father laying on the floor, and he called an ambulance, got an ambulance there right away.  They rushed him right to the Hospital.  He wouldn’t take it off his heart, left it right on.  Ahhh…so, they went into the hospital and latter on after they got him stable, the Doctor walks out with this big thing in his hand, and he looked at his son and goes: ‘What the heck is this thing?’  He goes: ‘That’s a magnet.’  

He goes:  (Heavy emphasis on next question with the sound of disbelief :)  ‘This is a magnet?!’  

He goes:  ‘Yeah.’

He goes:  ‘Yeah, we had to take it away from your Father.’  He goes: ‘I didn’t know what it was.’  He goes: ‘That magnet saved your Fathers life.’

     Because your heart is a muscle and when he put it on his heart, it forced his muscles and tissues to relax.  

He goes: ‘That heart attack he had, should have taken him out; but that magnet saved his life.’

Doug:  “Wow!”

Ray:  “So, there’s a lot of different things, it’s just different organs in your body, that you’re treating better.  Ahhmmm… and yeah everyone should be on a Diet and all that crap, which none of us are on.  You know?  But, your organs…Your body is suppost to rebuild and repair itself, your whole entire life.  Ahhhmmm…I’ve used them on my knees.  My knees are…I snapped my left knee and it hurt like crazy.  And ahhh…I…I…usually…I…I just ignored it, because, I usually heal really well, but, it kept not healing and getting worst and worst.  I go to the ‘V.A.’ well, I went in there and they took an X-Ray, then they took an M.R.I. and they said: ‘You don’t have any…you don’t have any cartilage in there, we got to operate.  We need to give you a new knee.’  So, I know what that consists of, so I acted dumb.  Some people say I don’t have to act, but anyways.  I acted dumb and I said: ‘Oh, you’re going to give me a new knee.  Right?’

He said: ‘Yes.’

I said: ‘Oh, that’s great.  Then I don’t have to worry about it for the rest of my life.’

He goes: ‘Well, no.’  He goes: ‘Within 10-15 years, that will wear out and we’ll have to do it again.’

I said: ‘Really?!  If I live another 10 or 15 years, you’ll have to do it again?’

And he goes : ‘Yes.’

I said: ‘You know what, I think I’ll just grow the cartilage instead.’  

And he goes: ‘You can’t grow cartilage.’

I said : ‘You can’t?’

He goes: ‘No.’

‘Huh, can I ask you a question?’

And he goes: ‘Sure.’

I said:  ‘Can you show me the ‘Cartilage factory,’ you went to as you were growing up and they put the cartilage in your knee?’

He looked at me and kinda:  (At his point Ray just makes a sound:)  ‘Ppptthhtt.’  He’s : “No such place.  They…They don’t do that.’  He goes:  ‘He goes: ‘My body produced it.’

‘You just told me the body can’t produce it.  Make up my mind.  Can it or Can’t it?’

And he kinda stumbled and stammed and…and I looked at him and I:  ‘Do you stutter much?’

‘Whaa, Whaa, Whaa, Whaa, Whaay, Whaa…No.’

And I said: ‘So, what’s the deal here?’  And I said: ‘Explain to me why you can’t grow cartilage.’

He said:  ‘Because,  your…your…knee…you…you end up damaging your knee and as you do, the muscles and tissues tighten up.  And as they tighten up, it cuts off circulation going through there.  Now your knee is rubbing back and forth and it’s destroying the cartilage and you’re wearing it out.’

‘O.k..  I’ll give you that.  Now why can’t you rebuild and repair it?’

‘Like I said: everything is tight.  You can’t get circulation in there.’

‘O.K..’

(Next word is emphasized in higher volume and attention grabbing tone of voice:)  ‘If  I could force the muscles and tissues to relax…’ (Again the word if is said in a louder tone and attention grabbing volume.)  ‘If I can increase the circulation in that area, 2-3 times more, than what it normally is; could that cartilage rebuild and repair itself?’  
He kinda stood there looking at me, and I can see he was thinking.  So, I waited.  Pretty soon he looked at me and goes: ‘Well theoretically.’

I said: ‘O.K., because that’s what I’m going to do.’

And he looked at me and he goes: ( In a louder tone of voice, like a parent asking their child in an incredulous manner:)  ‘And how are you going to do that?’
_ Sarcastically, and I looked at him and I said: (In a tone of voice, just as calm as if ordering diner at a fine restaurant.)  ‘I’m going to use magnets.’

He just looked at me.  (Medium pause.)  And said: ‘O.K..’  Turned around and walked off.”

Doug:  “ How long ago was that?”

Ray:  “Ahhh…that was, Ah, a year ago.  A year and a half maybe.”

Doug:  “And how does your knee feel now?”

Ray:  “Well, you’ve seen me.  I walk and I do all kinds of stuff.  Ahhhmmm…I had it almost totally healed up, (short pause.)  because it takes time.  You…you…you gonna to get the body quit a bit of time.  And I had it last, Ahhhmmm… September.  O.K.?  So, I guess it’s a little bit longer than that, because last September, I was back here with my motor home.  And the carpet in the motor home always looks like junk.  I replaced the carpet, but, you walking in and out, it looks crappy.  I always wanted tile in there.  I was feeling good.  So, my oldest boy said he’d help me.  So, we ripped out all the carpeting.  Took out a little bit of tile by the door and by the kitchen sink.  Rip that up, run that all outta there.  So, I’m up and down, up and down, up and down, up and down.  Ahhh…we replaced it and put all the tile in there and everything.  And by the time I’m done, my knee was killing me.  O.K.?  I’m still wearing the magnets, but my knee was killing me.  Because I’m up and down, up and down, up and down.  And, Ah, so, now I…It’s…so, since last September it was killing me.  ‘Oh, my God!’ I’m thinking, ‘I should have gone longer.  (chuckles.)  before I went and did that.’  Ahhh…but that’s just me.  I over do stuff, like anybody.  And, ah, but my knee now is, ah, before when I went back out West last year, in September, I had a really hard time Trying to get my signs up on my building.  I had to have one of my friends help me.  Ahhh…getting up and down the ladder was killing me.  Now I go back up and down the ladder.  I just go up and down stairs.  I do all kinds of stuff again.  It’s still rebuilding and repairing itself.  And I irritated the other knee, because I’m limping.  And, so, that knee started bothering me, so I put magnets and both knees.  And, Ahhmmm… I can…I can basically do anything I want to do again.  It ain’t healed yet.  And it’s gonna take time, çuz I mean I wrecked it twice.  So, it just, It’s gonna take time for it to rebuild and repair.  But, I got, all the time until they put me in the ground.”

Doug:  “Speaking of which; could this help you live longer?”

Ray:  (Short pause.)  “I believe so.”  (Very short pause.) “No proof, But, I believe so.  Like I sleep on a magnetic mattress, but I don’t here because I don’t have it with me; but if I had my motor home here I would be.  Ahhhmmm… but I sleep on a mattress and almost all the time.  And that forces all the muscles and tissues  in my body to relax, and increase the circulation, through my entire body as I’m sleeping.  I have a magnetic pillow in here, I brought that with me.  Ahhhmmm…Ahhh…So yeah, I believe it will.  Ahhhmmm…to answer that question, look at how many people I’ve stopped from having all kinds of different, Ahhh… surgeries and stuff like that.  From all these people that, ah, were diabetic before and they’re not anymore.  Ah, one lady you know how…how…you see these people that are humped right over; this big bump right on their back?  Ah, that lady that I told you that was six months diabetic free?  We were treating her Back, because of her pain in her Back was excruciating all the time.  And by putting the magnets…she was sitting on a double seat cushion, all the time, and she slept on it at night.  And her…it not only rebuild and repaired her Back, she’s standing straight up and down, you’ve never know it now, it also did her…her Pancreas.  That’s how we found out.  I didn’t know a thing about her Pancreas.  I only knew about the hump on her Back, because she was bent right over, like you see these old ladies are.  And she stands straight up and down now.  She…doesn’t have any…any problems at all.  She sits on that seat cushion.  And it…it wiped out her…her ah, diabetes.  So, that’s when I found out, now I have that belt, that concentrates right on that area; And it’s going right straight through the entire body.  The magnets are (very short pause) unbelievably strong.  We use what we call rare Earth magnets.  They’re Neo-Dimium  They’re the strongest magnets that man makes.  And that’s what we’re using.  Basically in most of our products now, and ah, all of our products now, Ahhhmmm…(Short pause.)  We’ve got ém so you can open it up, take the inner pack out for washing the shell, and put the inner pack back in and seal it.  So, you know, we’re getting those, ah, made like that, so they’re easier to clean, keep it clean, you know, so it’s more healthy.  So, I believe that if you didn’t know me as a kid, (Brief pause) all the motorcycle…I used to, not at, ah…at an event, but on my own, I used to jump motorcycles and go up beside the bank, tip over and I don’t know how many times I stove myself all up.  And ah, and anybody that knew me snowmobiling, I was forever crashing my snowmobile.  Ahhhmmm.. Err, A bunch of guys I used to go with, we’d race all the time and we’d raise cain.  And one would hit the other one and knock him off it.  And I broke my elbow on one of those, I mean, I never thought I was gonna live this long.  But, ahhmmm…For everything that I did to myself, back then, of course when you get older, you pay for it.  But, it keeps me up and going and I…I work every day, I’ve never stopped.  I’m 68 years old now.  I don’t have any plans for retirement.  We work every single day, just about so, we’re constantly on the go, my wife and I both.  She’s ah, a year younger than I am.  She can do more (next few words emphasized,) –now in her 60’s,  (remainder more serious in tone.)  than she could begin to do in her 40’s.  (Back to normal tone.)  Anybody that knows my wife back in her 40’s when she had the back…that’s when she had her surgery on her back, and she couldn’t hardly do anything, Ahhmmm…You hear the old story where I reached down to picked up a piece of paper and…and I…I collapsed because my back.  That’s what happened to her.  Ahhh…we’d had just come back from camping, she opened the truck door to, grab a piece of paper, on the seat of the truck and when she opened the door the breeze blew it onto the floor.  I had, ah, ’73 GMC at the time.  She’d reach down onto the floor to pick up the piece of paper and collapsed on the floor inside the truck.  (Medium pause.)  And I was in the…I was in the house (short pause) and I’m wondering:  ‘where is she?’  So, I went out to look to see what’s going on, and I find her crying laying on the floor of the truck.  She couldn’t move.”

Doug:  “Whew!”

Ray:  “And, Ahh, a friend of mine, that lived up the road a ways, was a Paramedic.  I called him right up.  And that’s when I had my cabinet shop.  And he’d come right down and talking to her trying to find out, and he goes: ‘We need a Back board.’  And I said: ‘Hold on a minute.’  I ran into the shop, I took a piece of, Ahhh…Birch plywood and I cut that right up into, ah, Back Board.  We come out and got her onto the Back Board and got her back up, so we could get her out of the truck, and, Ahhmmm…got her into the house, and then I finally got her into a Chiropractor.  He helped a little bit.  But, Ahhh…without us knowing it, she had degenerative disc disease in L5 which is gone.  Just gone!  I mean literally gone.  And, Ahhh…and her other vertebras’ were cracking up, you know, and that’s when we had found out with those X-Rays and talked with the Doctors and stuff.  And, ah, that ‘s why she had to have that surgery and then, ah, in about 10 or 11 months after her surgery I gotten involved with magnets; because they said she’s gonna, if her Vertebra didn’t stop breaking up, they’d have to put a rod in her Back.”

Doug:  “Whoa!”

Ray:  “And, ah, like I said, that was 26 years ago, that she had that surgery and she’s never had another surgery.  And I’ve taken her to the same Doctor and he cannot believe that her discs are totally healed.  So, you know, we’ve seen it ourselves.  Ahhh…but…”

Doug:  “Do you think these would help with your eyesight and hearing?”

Ray:  “Not the hearing.  Ahhhmmm…it can help with tinnitus.  Which is the ringing in the ear.  If you sleep on a magnetic pillow, because what happens, is the inner ear, had hair follicles that are standing up, and the sound waves go through those hair follicles and will deaden down as they go into you.  Now with tinnitus, those hair follicles collapse.  Now you got that screaming going through there.  Ah, I had it, but mine was like a, Ah…motor running.  It would start and stop.  It would go:  (Note to readers- Capital “M” is signifying a louder tone than the smaller case “m”.)  
MMMmmmm.

MMMmmm.

Up and down like that.  No way to get used to it.  That was from the cabinet shop with the saws and the planers and all that stuff that I had.  Most people have a high pitched screaming in their ear.  Ahhh… A lot of people in the military and ah, working on loud equipment, and…and stuff like that…that causes it.  So, they, Ahhh…if they sleep on ‘the pillow,’ Ahhmmm… So, far everyone I’ve done this with, has come back and said:  ‘Yup, it took it away.’  Ahhh…So, that part of the hearing it can help with, not just the normal hearing; you know?  Ahhhmmm… the eyes, depends on the eyes.  Like we have a mask for macular degeneration, Ahhh…sinuses, that type of stuff, to help clear all that up.  Ahhh…We have a mask that just does Glaucoma.  O.K.?  Ahhhmmm…Glaucoma of the eye has a lot of pressure in there.  Well, we have these two magnets that are set over right where the pressure is…I cal it like ‘duc’s’ that come over there; but it’s a drainage area.  So, you put those on there and it increases the circulation and inside those ‘duc’s’  the stuff gets in these and clogs it up.  Well, this will actually get everything moving and it’ll help take that away, take the eye pressure down.  So, it can help with that type of stuff.  Ahhh…we’ve had a lot of results with Magalia Degeneration.  I know of one lady that it did not help.  But, I know of some other people that it did stop that, and they got their eyesight back; because it would clean up stuff on there.

     Ahhmmm…There’s a lot of different things.  We’ve done Parkinsons, and Alzheimers if…if one of them…It’s a crusting starting in the back of the head that goes up over towards the forehead and then when that happens the crustings all the way, you’re gone.  Or, the other one starts at eh forehead and goes backwards over the other way.  And that is more of a…it’s not calcium itself, but like calcium that builds up, the crusting.  And if you increase that circulation up there, the White blood cells, Ah… I know a gay that had Parkinsons and he no longer has it; And he wore a hat.  And you have to keep wearing it.  And at night time, wither with a pillow or wear the hat to bed.  And it slowly chewed it up and took it out of there.  He was shaking like crazy.  No medication, he doesn’t shake anymore or nothing and he’s still living; Ah, still working and doing what he wants to do.

     Ahhhmmm… we’ve had Alzheimers where, you can’t talk to them, you can’t carry on a conversation.  You put the hat on them, Give ém about a half hour / 45 minutes, hang around and you’ll start to be able to talk to them and they’ll start talking back to you  and you can, Ahhh…they’re making sense again.

     Ahhh…I believe, I’ve never had one person actually say it took it all out, but I believe in my own heart…I wouldn’t believe that it would probably stop it.  Ahhhmmm… there’s a lot of people I sell too, that I never hear from them again.  Ahhh…and then when I do they say:  ‘Oh yeah, this worked, this worked, this worked.  Oh my God!  Thank you so much!  I don’t know.  I know Stroke people.  You put the hat on ém.  Ummm…it clears the Stroke right back up.  They’re right back out doing stuff that they were doing before.  It’s amazing what some of this stuff, what it does.  Can it cure everything?  Oh heck no.  A heck of a lot of stuff?  Oh yeah…yeah, we can.  Ahhhmmm… I can’t  make any claims, because, the F.D.A. would have an absolute fit.  So, I can’t make any claims.  I can just tell you what I’ve seen, with my own eyes.  And what it’s done for me and my family.  Ahhh…I have a lot of people…they tell me all the time.  (Note to readers:  Next sentence was said too fast to pick up on the tape.  It picks up at:)  and have them call me.  I’ll talk to them.  I have a lot of testimonials.  Ahhh…I got a book full of testimonials of people that have been using my stuff.

      Ahhhmmm…it’s all there.  You know, Ah…I just try to help people.  I gave up doing the carpentry, doing…building houses and log homes, Ahhhmmm…because I was sick of the Doctors, what they did to me, And I decided I’m going to try to help people get…(Note to readers:  Last part of  sentence was inaudible.)

     And that’s basically what I do.  Anybody wants to talk to me, they are welcome to call me.  I’ll be happy to talk to them.  I try not to make any claims and that type of stuff, you know what the F.D.A. is like.  All I can do, is tell you what I physically have seen with my own eyes and things I have experienced myself, and you have to take it from there.  I can five you lists and lists of Doctors.  You can look them up.  They can make all the claims they want.  O.K.?  And I have Doctors that have made a lot of claims.  Doctor Philpot  passed away now.  But, you can look up all his information.  He wrote Books.  He wrote, Ummm…Journals.  He’s got one called, Ahhh: Cancer the magnetic answer.  (Note to readers: Next sentence was said so fast it was inaudible.)  O.K.?  Like we talked about before, Ummm…he’s got all kinds…He’s…was 60 years in practice and he never wrote a prescription.  He gave people magnets.  (Note to readers:  next sentence was inaudible.)  So, he, Ah… he did a really good job.   Walter C. Rawls  Albert Roy Davis, but ah…those guys are scientists, and they proved that magnets work.  I met (Very long pause.)  I think it was Davis, in Florida, at Ahhhmmm…it was in Boca Riccone.  That was what, Ah…where we were.  And it was, Ah…class.  Real class ‘A’ Mall.  O.K.?  High class mall and I was set up there.  And I’m talking to a customer...I forgot about this, until now.  Ahhh…And my wife was talking to somebody else. –Another man and his wife.  And I’m talking to this customer and I…I got done talking with the customer and my wife comes over and kinda nudges me.  And she kinda quietly picks up the flyer and points at a name- Albert Roy Davis and then she points over at those people.  And I looked at her and said: ‘That’s them?’  She goes: ‘Yes.’  Heh.  So, I walked over, I wanted to see what they said; because we got a lot of our information, and I put their name in my… in my flyer.  That’s when my wife was passing out flyers too.  And the lady…his wife happened to look at it and pointed to his name in there, ‘cuz they stopped to look at my stuff.  So, I’m talking to them and he’s asking me all kinds of questions and I’m answering the questions.  And (short pause) he never said who he was.  I knew because, my wife had pointed it out to me; but, ah, he finally stuck his hand out to shake my hand and said who he was.  And he toes, ah…’I see my name is in you flyer.’  I said: ‘Yeah, because I’m just referencing you, to have people look up your information.’  He goes:  ‘I’m very thankful that you did that.’  He goes: ‘I’ve looked at a lot of magnetic places; people are selling magnets and doing stuff.  I ask questions, and the ques…the answers they give me are full of crap.’  He goes: ‘you’re the only one that’s been able to answer the questions that I asked.  And you tell me exactly the way it is.’ And…and he shock my hand again.  He goes: ‘I am proud to be in your flyer.’  He goes: ‘You did a really good job, keep it up.’  So, I met him.  I’ve talked with, ah…before he passed away, Doctor Philpot.  I’ve had ah, a couple of people come up to me, and I had no idea what to do for them, and I’ve called him and (very short pause,)  I can’t say we were friends or anything, but, he knew me after I called him enough times.  And,  Ahhh…He would give me an idea, and he goes: ‘What have you got for a product that you can do this with?’  So, I’d explain what I have.  –‘Yes, absolutely, have them put that on.  Have them wear that.’  So, I’ve had some really good information, years and years ago from these guys.  And Ummm…there’s, ah, Doctor Bromeyer.  He, ah, has stuff there.  Ah, you can look up all his stuff.  Ahhhmmm… there’s a couple of other Doctors that I can’t think right now whose been there.  But, ah, you can look up any of those Doctors, Ahhhmmm…(short pause)  There’s ah, Doctor in Danvers Massachusetts.  They called him:  ‘Old Doctor Sweet.’  I never met him, but, I’ve had so many people talking about him…That looked up his information, and ah, they said when you went in to see him, Ahhh…When you left, he gave you magnets to use, he didn’t give you a prescription.  He was like Doctor Philtop.  He believed in the magnets, better than the medication.  And, ah, there was a big article…I was doing a show in Massachusetts and a customer came in that had seen me before…came in and gave me the newspaper and said:  ‘You need to read this.’  And it told all about old Doctor Sweet and he was there in Danvers or someplace, had a business.  It was all about magnets.  I was like: ‘Wow!’  I couldn’t have picked a better time to be in the town, Ah, to this, you know, here.  So, ah, that was pretty cool.  We had that article for a long time.  There was an another article…I met, ah, this lady that had, ahhhmmm…seizures.  Ahhh…Eppa…Epileptic seizures and stuff like that.  And, Ahhh…(short pause)  She’ve had an Grand maul seizure and her boyfriend said: ‘Usually she’s 3 days in bed after that.’  It wiped her right out.  Well, I took the hat off my table and said:  ‘Go put that on her.’  He goes: ‘Why?’  I said: ‘Go put it on her.’  By noontime she was in the Booth and he was flipping out…couldn’t believe it.  Ahhmmm…and we were doing another show, it was going to be a month.  It’s going to be a month out we’re doing a show that we’re going to be…we’re see each other again.  So, I didn’t think anything of it.  Well, when we saw him again, He come over, He goes: ‘You need to read this.’  It’s from the Alabama newspaper.  What…this ladys’ Mother had sent her.  It was a whole page article...had a diagram of the head and everything, on a procedure on putting wires up into the brain to try to stop from having seizures.  And it had this whole thing on there, it explained the whole thing, the whole page.  Down in the bottom right hand corner, no more than an inch and a half byyyyyyy….maybe three quarters of an inch, at the very bottom, it said: ‘If this procedure does not work, try using magnets.’ Right there. (Goes into a very high pitch tone of voice) Why would you go and have everybody operate on your brain, stick wires all through ya, when this right here in the newspaper said:  (Back to normal tone of voice.)  Try using magnets.  That was unreal.  I had that for a long time and then it come up missing, I don’t know what had happened to it, but we had that.  But, it was an Alabama newspaper and we…they had put this great big article and this Doctor had put in, Ahhh…about seizures, Ummm…and how to try and fix it and stuff.”

Doug:  “Whew!”

Ray:  “So, it was unreal.”

Doug:  “Well, this tape is about to run out.  Do you want me to put another on in or are you all set?”

Ray:  “No, I think I probably covered about all I can think of.”

Doug:  “O.K..”

Ray:  “Unless you have questions, but…”

This is the end of the October 2022 Interview






Late 1990s Interview

Ray McClutcheon on his Magnetic products.


Ray :  “Back in December when I was in Florida my feet were so bad that I was in a wheelchair every day.  Because of these products I now up and around leading a normal life.  I’ve had both of my feet operated on.  They said it was Tarsal Tunnel, similar to Carpal tunnel.  All it ever did was take away the side pressure on my feet.  I was wearing sandals for about 3 years.  All I could wear was sandals because my feet were so bad.  I’ve gone to all kinds of specialists and Doctors.  I went to a specialist in Boston.  None of the Doctors could tell me what was wrong, nobody knew.  They kept saying that nothing was wrong.  They wanted to put me on anti-depressants.  I don’t want to take drugs, so I refused to take it.  When I happened to run across this guy in Florida who had a table with products, he told me he could take me out of pain.  I didn’t believe him at all.  I thought he was full of malarkey.  He had me sit down.  My feet were so bad, that I was physically ready to sit down and cry.  Because, of my feet hurting so bad, I was compensating for the way I was walking which was throwing my back out at the same time.  He sat me down and I put my foot on a magnetic brick.  As I sat there, about 20 minutes later, the pain was actually gone.  That was the first time in 4 years that the pain was actually gone. I put my other foot on the brick.  I did them individually so that I’d know that it wasn’t just a coincidence.  I knew that if it drew pain out of one foot and there was pain in the other foot, then this stuff was really working.  It did.  It took the pain out of that foot and then the other foot.  While I was sitting there he asked me how my back was doing.  I couldn’t believe it.  I had no back pain.  I couldn’t understand why.  Come to find out I was sitting on a Magnetic Pad.  While I was sitting there it eased all the pain in my back.  I didn’t bother with the wheelchair all the rest of the day.  I went to a flea market where it was all tar.  I walked all day there. Went out all evening.  Went out to Dinner.  Danced with my wife.  It’s the first time in 4 years my wife and I had been out dancing.  It was unbelievable.  I had no pain.  I went to bed that night and the next day I got up, I put my feet down and stood up.  I couldn’t believe it.  There was no pain. It’s been like that ever since and that started in December.  I also bought a back pad for my truck and I lean on that all the pain is gone in my back.  It’s unbelievable.  I’ve never been this pain free.  I went back in February and I talked to the guy and bought into the company.  I brought the stuff up here.  Since then, we have gone all over the state, done all kinds of home shows, and different kinds of stuff up here that we are going to be taking this stuff to.  I’m going to be doing a lot thru the fairs and town events.  I’ll be having the stuff throughout Maine.”

Big Time :  “This magazine is coming out in August.  Could you tell us some of the Fairs you’ll be doing in Augusta and September and so forth?”

 

Ray :  “We’ll we’re gonna try to be at the Windsor Fair which is in September.  We’re going to try to be at Cumberland, Acton, Skowhegan, Bangor.  We’re going to try to be in all of those, as long as it’s not too late.  I want to be in places like Old Hallowell Days, Richmond Days – anything I can find like that, any events that I know that is going on that I can possibly be in.  Those are the ones that I want to go to.

     We have found out that any show, any event, anywhere, this stuff is really being accepted.  I’m amazed, because in Maine. People are really ‘hard-nosed,’ and don’t believe in a lot of stuff.  This is working so well and so quick that we have mail orders all the time from people that are re-ordering and re-ordering and re-ordering more and more stuff, because, they’ll buy one small thing and find out it works.  It’s not a hoax.  Then they start really coming along and buying our stuff. Our magnets for magnetic therapy is different from anybody else’s.   The  polarity on our magnets…we use strictly the North Pole series, which is the negative part of the magnet.  The South Pole is the positive side.  We use strictly the North Pole series which is the negative side.  This company has figured a way to make a magnet totally negative on one side, totally positive on the other side and there’s not any others out there that can do that right now.  They have alliterating polarity similar to a refrigerator magnetic that you have on a refrigerator.  The reason it will hold itself on the refrigerator is on the account it has negative and positive all over the same side.  It’s negative-positive, negative-positive, negative positive all over the whole magnet.  Ours is not.  Ours is totally negative and totally positive.  I show demonstrations by how – if you put them together; how they stay there and they don’t snap up one side or down the other.  They don’t twist around on you, unless you’ve got positive to positive obviously they’ll push apart, though when you put a negative to positive, anywhere you put it, it will hold its position.  It’s not like the other type of magnets that have negative and positive all on the same side and they jump apart from each other.

     We’ve got a variety of products.  We have more products than probably most other companies.  We have things that will range from your feet, your ankles, your legs, your knees, your hips, your back, your arms, your shoulders, your elbows, your writs…we’ve got all kinds of jewelry that helps the same type of stuff.  We have jewelry that actually lowers blood pressure.  We have all kinds of products.  We have orthopedic pillows that have magnets in them for anybody who has headaches, neck aches, upper backaches as you’re sleeping at night this helps rejuvenate it.  It helps rebuilt it.  We have mattress pads.  We have pet pads for people with pets like myself.  My dog- I have a Sheltie and in years, when they get older, they’re prone to have hip disease and by using this pet pad I’m hoping to be able to not have that problem with her.  There’s a lot of different things.  We have a first aid magnet that is one of the most high powered magnets you can buy for its size and for people who are allergic to bee stings.  If you get stung by a bee, you take this magnet and put it right on to the bee sting and it neutralizes the pH in there so you don’t have to use a needle.  They are very high powered magnets.  They are used for a variety of different things.  It’s not something that’s going to cure everybody.  It’s not cure-a;; for everyone, but we’ve had a high rate of people that once they’ve used this, they found great results.  There’s other companies out there and they’ll find out that ours is totally different than other companies.”

 

Big Time :  “What other companies?”

 

Ray :  “Ours is Lyon, Gold and Silver.  They are from La Crosse Wisconsin.”

 

Big Time :  “Lyon?”

 

Ray :   “Yes, Lyon…Gold and Silver.  That doesn’t mean there’s gold or silver in it.  It means that gold is more high powered, silver is less power.  They both will do the same thing it’s just that high power will do it much faster, much quicker and you’ll see results a lot faster.  The silver one will also do it, but it will just take a little bit more time.

     I have testimonial letters from people that have used it and have found out that it’s just incredible.  A guy that does VCR repair has very bad hips, real excruciating pain.  He’s come in and tried our cushions.  He sat on a cushion for 23 minutes and got up.  When he came in he was in excruciating pain.  He couldn’t believe it.  His pain was totally gone in 23 minutes.  He went out immediately and got the money and came back and brought one of these pads from me.  I have a testimonial letter that tells that he’s had it for 10 days.  He has it with him all the time.  He sits on it and stuff, in his car and sleeps on it at night in his bed.  He’s already cut his medication in less than half from the result of it.  He’s doing more.  He’s walking more and he’s enjoying life like he hasn’t done it before and that’s somebody locally in this area.  I have other testimony letters from other people, so this really works.  It’s not a hoax.  It’s an incredible product.  It can range from people being young to old, for anything they might have.  If it’s an athlete, they always have these knee supporters and stuff that they use;  well we have the same type of knee supporter but what we’ve done is we’ve enhanced it by putting magnets in the knee supporter.  Instead of peddling you’re bike or running or doing track, whatever it is and when you get older and end up having your knees all gone on you. You can use these now and it helps your body rejuvenate itself now and not later when you’re in pain.  You can actually save yourself from future pain.  People who have bad knees or bad elbow we have different applications that they can use for that.  They just aren’t some sound disc, or something like that.  They are an actual product that’s designed for that area that’s comfortable.  It doesn’t look hideous, it’s acceptable.

     For people who have arthritis and tendinitis and those types of things, especially arthritis that is a calcium deposit into your system; by using these magnets, it increases your blood flow.  The blood flow is a very important thing because the more blood you can have pumping thru that area, that will be aching and paining; you have more chances of white blood cells coming thru there which will attack the calcium deposits and end up chewing them up and getting rid of a lot of your arthritis and problems like that.  Especially your hands and feet.  Those are the worst places for anybody.  That’s where the poor circulation comes especially as they get older.

      We have different things for people with bad backs.  Will it cure a back from popping out and going to the Chiropractor?  No.  But, what it will do is decrease the swelling so that like myself, my back goes out a lot but it’s non-operable, because it’s something, because of being in construction for years.  I wore my back out and it does pop out when I’m doing something.  By wearing magnetic around my back area when it does hurt or I’m in pain or when that does happen;  what it does do is it increases the circulation and it takes the swelling out of it so I don’t have to ice it and keep icing it to get it to go down.  Then when I go to the chiropractor, it’s easier for him to put it in.

      I have different ones that go into the back.  I have a back pad.  You put that in there and instantly it starts the blood circulating which will take away some of the swelling, so when I go in to be adjusted its very easy.  The Chiropractor has no problem at all snapping it back in.  There’s all kinds of things these are used for.  We have foot pads that you can use.  We have the magnets that are placed at the accurate pressure points of your feet.  We have two different types of them.  They range from $17.50 to $15.50.  (Note to readers:  This interview was done in the late 90’s, so those prices may have changed.)  That’s a very low cost to be able to be on your feet and be able to walk all the time without pain.

     We have all kinds of different products.  We have found out that bacteria cannot live in a negative magnetic field, so a lot of time people with colds and flues and different ailments of that sort; if they are around the magnets or have a mattress pad of something like that, they won’t catch the colds.  They won’t get the flues. They may come down with it a little bit during the day, but, by the time they sleep on this at night, it will get rid of it.  It will kill it as they’re sleeping on it.  The body rejuvenates itself from 10 o’clock to 2 o’clock in the morning, every  night.  That’s the critical time to get the rest you need and if you’re sleeping on a mattress pad you’re going to find out that you’re body is going to be much more rested.  You’re going to have more energy the next day.  You won’t require as much sleep because you’ve been into a really deep restful sleep and that is where it’s the most important to be in that deep sleep.  That’s where you get most of your rest.  The magnets relax your muscles, relax your body and you get into a really nice comfortable sleep.  I sleep better now than I’ve slept in the last 25 years.  It’s been a great thing.

      As far as musicians; what can it do for them?  Well, a lot of them have Carpal Tunnel or sore wrists.  It won’t cure Carpal Tunnel, but it will take a lot of swelling, a lot of pain and pressure out of that area, especially if they’ve had an operation for Carpal Tunnel.  By using magnetic, you’ll heal 3 times as fast as you normally do and it will help those types of problems.  It will help your nerves.  It will help muscles.  It will help all types of different problems in through there.  Like I said, it’s not a cure all, but it will help different parts.

      Guys that are lugging in the equipment.  They’re backs are hurting.  They wear different back supporters.  We have back supporters, but we enhance them by putting magnets in them which increases the blood circulation and they end up with a lot of less problems then what they probably would have.  Drummers, they are using their wrists all the time.  They’re prone to have those types of problems.  If they were to wear the type of bracelets; which look like jewelry, so people don’t know that they have that or we have wrist wraps and braces, stuff like that.  They could use those if that’s what they prefer.  By using anything like this, they may, ‘stop,’ a problem that may arise in the future.

     Anybody playing the piano.  You’re using your hands.  You’re using your fingers.  You’re using that same repetitious thing over and over.  This is where the magnets come in and it helps…you know?  People who are using it who play either piano or guitar or some kind of a horn or something, they’re using their fingers. By having these magnets on there, they will find that their fingers are much more loose.  Their hands are looser.  They can actually do things a lot quicker and faster with it, so there are different things that would also help.

     There’s all kinds of things.  Elderly people could also use this for arthritis and rheumatism and that type of stuff.  There are different types of magnets which would definitely be able to help them be able to get back into their regular stream of life without taking drugs all the time.”